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Mass suicide

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What are the beliefs of the Solar Temple? Emmaglisson (talk) 14:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd summarize it as a mix of Heaven's Gate and the Knights Templar. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

to do

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Anyone can do this, but since I seem to be currently the only editor interested in editing this page this is mostly a note for myself, but here are some specific coverage issues/points for expansion that should be added to the article

  • fix up remaining awkward french turns of phrase
  • expand on canadian activities did this... sorta
  • expand on the specifics of what went wrong and why did this, could do more
  • replace cesnur sources as they are not reliable
  • expands on the specifics of their theology, what influenced them, etc did a lot, could do more
  • expand on how, exactly, this affected the anti-cult legislation kind of done, could do more
  • write an article for di mambro

PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:29, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

my plan for this is to cover the ideological background with regard to neo-templar history/all the inspirations and background here, and have more specific sections on the leader's activities on Joseph Di Mambro and Luc Jouret, because it's quite difficult to summarize the background when you're trying to trace the evolution of all three of these things at once PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upon review the "cesnur source" is actually a trial document, republished by cesnur. Ideally I could find it somewhere else but I seem to be unable to. It's primary but CESNUR's issues don't factor into it so it seems fine. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:02, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+ integrate controversies stuff and beliefs section into wider body PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+ replace moran and reynolds and champion
they're not unreliable but there are better sources PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I have found more obscure French sources, ORT, Jacques Breyer, and Raymond Bernard are probably independently notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:13, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now I have made articles for all those things, Renewed Order of the Temple, Jacques Breyer, Raymond Bernard (esotericist). PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also plan to split off the "transits" as they each independently pass NEVENT and if I was to cover them each in the depth that the secondary sources do this article would be waaaaay too long. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
did that PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quotation marks on 'transit'

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PARAKANYAA reverted my edit adding quotation marks on 'transit'. My argument is that using the term without quotation marks appears to express support for OST doctrine, entailing that the suicides and murders really did transport ('transit') people to another planet. PARKANYAA's argument is that using quotation marks gets too repetitive because the term is repeated a lot in the text. My motivation is based on WP:NPOV (specifically the section on undue weight), which is a core Wikipedia policy, and hence it should take precedence over any considerations of style. It is much more important not to endorse the ideas of a mass suicide cult than not to annoy people with repeated punctuation. 62.73.72.3 (talk) 13:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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